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October 19, 2007 ·

So I was gave a design patterns presentation at both MAXs... I figured I'd Google to see if I could find any coverage of it (no, I couldn't) and what turned up was my own blog post from four years ago! Along with the observation that CF lets you implement certain patterns more easily I said "The bottom line is that it's useful to be aware of the J2EE patterns but beware of slavishly applying them to ColdFusion - some of them were designed to solve problems that are specific to the Java technology and you can often find a more elegant form of the solution in ColdFusion." As folks who attended my session in Chicago and/or Barcelona heard, I'm still offering that caveat today and people still think it's news...

Tags: adobemax07 · architecture · coldfusion · j2ee

6 responses

  • 1 Simon Horwith // Oct 19, 2007 at 11:36 PM

    FYI - I gave a 'Design Patters with CF' preso at MAX 4 years ago. Not sure if Google can crawl the old MAX presos, though.
  • 2 Nitai // Oct 20, 2007 at 2:34 AM

    Hi Sean

    I enjoyed your talk in Barcelona. I think the "problem" you are facing with software patterns in the ColdFusion community is that a lot of "developers" found their first language in ColdFusion, mainly because their boss told them they had to do something or they couldn't do it in Flash/InDesign/DreamWeaver/etc.

    Thus your audience might be not the "programmer" but people who happen to take upon ColdFusion.

    I think this can somehow be applied since you told us that not a lot of developers use a framework at all, either. This actually surprised me a lot, but maybe the ons that really post blogs are the ones that use frameworks :-)

    Anyhow, keep the knowledge flowing as I will try to give something back. Thank you for all your energy and time.

  • 3 Sean Corfield // Oct 20, 2007 at 11:11 AM

    @Nitai, glad you enjoyed the talk. I should qualify my comment about framework usage: based on discussions with framework authors, download numbers and the size of the community overall, I estimate around 10% of all CFers use a framework. From what I can gather, that's about the same percentage as in the Java community (but of course the Java community is at least an order of magnitude larger so that's a lot more people using frameworks so you can have conferences like SpringOne dedicated to a single framework with 400+ attendees).

    @Simon, yes, I saw your design patterns presentation - mine is very, very different...
  • 4 DanaK // Oct 23, 2007 at 11:34 AM

    Sean - Is your presso available anywhere online?
  • 5 Sean Corfield // Oct 23, 2007 at 12:14 PM

    @DanaK, not yet. I'm presenting essentially the same talk at CFUNITED Express Bay Area on November 9th and I will post the preso after that.
  • 6 DanaK // Oct 24, 2007 at 5:47 AM

    great, thanks! I had to miss MAX and it was one of the sessions I was looking forward to.