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CS4 Public Betas - Dw, Fw, Sb

May 26, 2008 · 13 Comments

Dreamweaver CS4, Fireworks CS4 and Soundbooth CS4 public beta builds are available for download from Adobe Labs. I think you'll be in for a (pleasant) surprise!

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13 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tom Chiverton // May 27, 2008 at 3:23 AM

    Why, what's so pleasant ?
    None of them run on Linux now, do they :-)
  • 2 Sean Corfield // May 27, 2008 at 7:49 AM

    Get a Mac Tom - it's "Unix Inside" :)
  • 3 rob // May 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM

    The Fireworks UI looks awesome judging from the small screenshot on the "learn more" page.

    Anyone have a CS3 serial number I can borrow :-D
  • 4 Henrique Feijo // May 29, 2008 at 9:58 AM

    I haven't seen any improvements on programming in ColdFusion on dreamweaver CS4. This is what I was expecting the most!
  • 5 Sean Corfield // May 29, 2008 at 10:11 AM

    @Henrique, why were you expecting that? CFers are only a small percentage of the target market for DW. It seems that DW CS4 is focusing on its core audience and trying to streamline and simplify things. I gave up using DW for day-to-day CF development years ago but DW is still a very valuable tool for HTML work and CSS.
  • 6 richard // May 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM

    Hi Sean

    I looked at the updates (I've been with Adobe since PS3 and (Macromedia) since CF4 and the initial DW/FW releases), and I was wondering why you thought we would "pleasantly surpised". I couldn't see much that would interest developers/architects. Maybe I missed something, and given that I get a lot of my inspiration here, maybe you could give me a clue?
  • 7 Sean Corfield // Jun 2, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    @Richard, really? You don't find anything "pleasant" about the new features? The SVN integration in DW? The WebKit-powered Live View and the ability to debug / style the DOM in real time? The CSS exports in FW? To name just a few developer-centric features. I think the CS4 betas are a big step forward for developers!
  • 8 Henrique Feijo // Jun 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Sean, I just think that since there are nowhere to program in ColdFusion, the Dreamweaver is basically the only option (no counting CFEclipse). I just think that Adobe should provide a tool for us to program and I thought that this tool would be Dreamweaver, this is why I was expecting improvements on CS4 regarding to ColdFusion. I guess I'll still be dreamming of the perfet ColdFusion programming tool.
  • 9 Sean Corfield // Jun 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM

    @Henrique, well, I don't find DW useful for CF programming so I use CFEclipse for that.
  • 10 richard // Jun 2, 2008 at 7:50 PM

    Sean - I realise now that your post was probably aimed at people who are already committed (or forced into) using DW in which case SVN integration will be very welcome. For CFEclipse/Firebug etc users, not so compelling. I didn't look at the CSS exports - I think developing a systematic approach to CSS is rather important, so it would be interesting to see how/if this could fit in.
  • 11 Sean Corfield // Jun 3, 2008 at 4:07 AM

    @Richard, right, I'm not suggesting the new DW will cut swathes thru CFEclipse's community. I don't plan to switch to DW for CF development - but it provides a lot that makes my life easier when working on more visual stuff and JS.
  • 12 richard // Jun 3, 2008 at 8:24 AM

    Sean - I guess you're in my home town of Edinburgh at the moment - have fun!
  • 13 Sean Corfield // Jun 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    @Richard, yes, Edinburgh is agreeing with me :)

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