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May 3, 2008
Vince Bonfanti hosted a Birds of a Feather session this evening where he officially unveiled the Open BlueDragon project.

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April 14, 2008
This time it's me in the spotlight, interviewed by Alan Williamson. Previous interview victims have been Mike Brunt, Peter Amiri and Andy Allan. Keep you eye on Alan's blog for interviews with the remaining members of the Open BlueDragon Steering Committee.

Don't forget that cf.Objective() 2008 is the first place to get your hands on Open BlueDragon where Vince will launch the project to the public and a number of the OpenBD Steering Committee members will be present to answer your questions.


April 11, 2008
This year's cf.Objective() has a lot of firsts. If you're not attending, you're going to miss out on a lot of world premier events!

We've worked hard to make cf.Objective() 2008 a "must see" event. We have a number of firsts this year that we're very proud of:

  • The public release of Open BlueDragon on May 3rd!
  • The public unveiling - and Alpha - of Model-Glue 3: Gesture!
  • The public unveiling of Mate, the new Flex framework from AsFusion!
  • The first conference to feature the latest rising star in the frameworks world: ColdBox - with an introductory session and a two hour, hands-on advanced workshop!
  • The first public information about Swiz, the new Flex framework from Chris Scott of ColdSpring fame!
  • Speaking of Chris Scott, we're the first conference to feature a two-hour, hands-on workshop for ColdSpring!
  • We're also the first conference to feature a two-hour, hands-on workshop on agile development for ColdFusion developers by the leading light in automated process & testing, John Paul Ashenfelter!
How can you pass this up? $629 for three full days of brain-cramming, enterprise-level information in a hotel that's only $120 a night! Register Now! The room rate is only guaranteed for a few more days!

If you're a Mach-II user - or thinking of using Mach-II - you might also be interested in the pre-conference classes.


April 8, 2008
Alan Williamson introduces the members of the Open BlueDragon Steering Committee in a post today that includes quotes from each committee member about their hopes for the project.

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April 3, 2008
Alan Williamson just announced that the BlueDragon open source project has an official name: Open BlueDragon, or OpenBD for short. The steering committee has also created a public mailing list for discussing all things related to the project.


March 27, 2008
Dan Wilson conducted a great interview with Vince Bonfanti about BlueDragon going open source, published on dzone.

The release date for BlueDragon Open Source is May 3rd at cf.Objective(). Register for cf.Objective() and be one of the first to see the project "in the flesh"! Come along to the BOF and ask Vince all about the whys and wherefores of the project and New Atlanta's decision to go open source (assuming Dan's interview doesn't answer your questions).

Alan Williamson has also posted about the steering committee and the process for getting involved.


March 21, 2008
Vince Bonfanti will be presenting a Birds of a Feather session at cf.Objective() 2008 on the Open Source BlueDragon project.

New Atlanta are working hard to make an initial source code drop available, especially for cf.Objective(), so that Vince can show how to download, install, build and configure the project - and field questions about New Atlanta's thinking behind open sourcing the J2EE edition of BlueDragon, as well as discussing with the community how the project can move forward, how the license works, how the steering committee operates and so on.

If you're excited about New Atlanta's recent announcement - or even just curious about how such a large open source project might work for the CF community - be sure to attend this Birds of a Feather session on Saturday evening at 7:30pm. The schedule shows it running an hour but I expect this will need more than an hour so I currently plan to keep the 8:30pm slot open immediately afterward to allow for an extended Q&A session.


March 15, 2008
Vince Bonfanti has posted a good explanation of several of the details and implications of opening up BlueDragon. I was pleased to see him call out my blog post about the announcement! Hopefully his post will clarify a lot of the misconceptions I've seen expressed in a number of discussions.

Vince points folks to the new Open Source forum on the New Atlanta website which has a lot of good information about the details of dual licensing, the expected process for contributions and so on.

I strongly encourage folks to read Vince's post and then read all the threads in the forum.


March 10, 2008
In a move that has surprised some folks, New Atlanta has announced plans to create a free open source version of their J2EE BlueDragon product. They will continue to develop, sell and support a commercial version of it, as well as continuing the .NET version and the standalone JX version (neither of which will be open sourced).

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January 30, 2008
As folks know, I bought Vista to run on VMware Fusion on my MacBook Pro. I'd felt it was slow and bloated but I figured I'd give it a good run to really make up my mind.

What I like about Vista:

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August 8, 2007
As you might have gathered from my recent posts, I'm trying to set up a full-blown development environment on Vista, just to see how I get on and to compare it with my regular development environment on OS X.

Having beaten SQL Server Express into submission after much pain, I figured I'd talk about my experiences getting BlueDragon 7 .NET installed and running.

First off, I knew that IIS was not enabled by default but poking around in what I thought were the obvious places didn't give me any clues about how to enable it. Google quickly directed me to a tech note (on MSDN or Microsoft's support site) that showed me the way. The more I work with Vista, the less I like the new Control Panel layout compared to XP. Anyway, I enabled IIS per the instructions and verified that I could access it locally. A quick tweak to the firewall allowed me to access it from OS X as well. All good so far and not too painful.

Now that IIS 7 was running, I figured BD7.NET would be a simple install. The install went fairly smoothly but IIS7 refused to serve any pages up afterward. The friendly error message pointed at a problem with applicationHost.config so I tracked that file down (another Google search) but couldn't figure out how to open it (because of security restrictions). Another Google search revealed that I needed to locate Notepad in the Start Menu and right-click Run As Administrator and then Open... and navigate back to the configuration file. By pure guesswork, I changed:

<location path="" overrideMode="Allow">
which wraps the BD-installed handlers to:
<location path="Default Web Site" overrideMode="Allow">
and IIS7 came back to life. Yay me! Unfortunately, when I tried to run the BlueDragon Admin, I got a 500 error and something about a bad "ManagedPipelineHandler" in the BlueDragon configuration (and, of course, that text was nowhere to be found in the config file!).

Google turned up one reference to this, on New Atlanta's self-help mailing list. Someone called Brian had hit the exact same error back in July but no one had replied. Darn!

So I emailed New Atlanta's support and today I got a response from Lori who confirmed that the applicationHost.config settings were correct (with path="") but asked me to check a couple of things... Number one was whether I had installed ASP.NET. Hmm, I thought that was built into IIS7 so it hadn't occurred to me I'd need to set that up independently. It also hadn't occurred to me that BD7.NET would require ASP.NET but that's another story.

Lori had attached a screen shot of the same Windows program features dialog that I'd used to enable IIS7 but she showed the options I needed to check to enable ASP.NET.

Things still didn't work right but now I could figure out the solution on my own: since I'd installed BD7.NET before ASP.NET, applicationHost.config wasn't what BD expected so all I had to do was merge the BlueDragon handlers into the ASP.NET handlers. Yes, that worked as expected!

IIS7 works. BlueDragon works. I can access both from Vista and from OS X. I configured a MS SQL Server data source (to connect to the SQL Server Express instance) and that worked too! Yay!

Then I tried to configure a MySQL data source and got "Could not load file or assembly 'MySql.Data' or one of its dependencies." *sigh*

So I downloaded the Connect/NET 5.0 ADO-based driver and installed that and rebooted. Still the same error message.

Back to Google I guess...


July 5, 2007
John Paul Ashenfelter kicked off my day with his talk about testing ColdFusion applications. He started out by defining the different types of testing and then talked about some tools that help you test applications. He mentioned cfcUnit for writing unit tests but didn't go into details (Paul Kenney was doing a talk on Test-Driven Development with cfcUnit later on at CFUNITED). John Paul did go into quite a bit of detail about Selenium which is an incredibly cool browser capture / playback testing tool written entirely in JavaScript. I downloaded Selenium and within a few minutes - with a little help from John Paul - I was recording test scripts for a web application and automatically running entire suites of test scripts. Very impressive - highly recommended! John Paul also covered continuous integration (where tests are run automatically for you as you change code) and different types of load testing: testing under expected load, testing for bottlenecks, stress testing - to see what traffic will break the site. Overall, this was a great session and John Paul is an engaging and passionate speaker.

The next talk I attended was also about testing: Thomas Burleson of Universal Mind, talking about continuous testing with Flex and ColdFusion. He was plagued with technical problems (the A/V system failed in Ballroom GH for several speakers) and didn't get through all of his presentation, unfortunately. The big takeaway for me was that Universal Mind have developed a Java application that keeps your source code (CFCs and I think AS3 classes too) in sync with your unit tests (assuming you use FlexUnit and cfcUnit). The Java app automatically generates new stub tests (that fail) for any new methods you create in your source code. Unfortunately, I didn't see a URL for this "Synchronizer" tool.

Next was Vince Bonfanti's keynote talk about BlueDragon. He surveyed the audience and found nearly half of those present were at their very first CFUNITED and a few people in the audience had never heard of BlueDragon. After a brief overview of New Atlanta, who are now ten years old, he talked about the three main innovations coming down the pike from New Atlanta over the next few years:

  • IIS 7 integrated administration and request pipeline (Application.cfc) (2007)
  • AJAX & Silverlight support (2007-2008)
  • DLR integration (2008 onwards)
Vince talked about how with IIS 6 there are three request pipelines: IIS, ASP.NET, BlueDragon (Application.cfc). With IIS 7, these can be integrated into a single set of handlers, allowing you to write event handlers in Application.cfc that apply to all requests - not just CFML pages. This will also allow for three new Application.cfc event handlers: onAuthenticationRequest(), onRequestAuthorize() and onRequestLog(). This will allow you to write security wrappers in CFML that apply in general across your web server, e.g., for images, HTML pages etc.

Vince also showed an early build of the integrated administration, which exposes BlueDragon admin functions directly into the IIS 7 control panel. That means that all of the IIS 7 administrative concepts (cascading settings, remote delegation, deployable application configuration through web.config files) will now be applicable to BlueDragon.

Bugs aside in these early builds, this level of integration is pretty impressive and I can see it being very appealing to people who are heavily invested in the Windows platform and IIS 7.

Vince went on to show a new tag - <cfupdatepanel> - which allows a portion of a CFML page to be executed remotely as part of an AJAX region. It's a different approach to the AJAX widgets in ColdFusion 8 and my initial impression was that ColdFusion 8's approach is more powerful and more flexible. Vince has since assured me that this is just the first step in AJAX support for BlueDragon so comparisons should wait for now.

The final demo in the keynote was a console application that compiled and executed CFML code by using the BlueDragon engine running on the DLR - Dynamic Language Runtime - that Microsoft recently announced. This is codenamed IronDragon (in the spirit of Microsoft's version of Python that runs on the DLR: IronPython). Since Silverlight implements the DLR, this opens up the possibility of using CFML on both the server (as today) and the client (in Silverlight). Given the appearance of Monolight - an implementation of Silverlight on top of Mono (the open source .NET runtime implementation) - this could be a very interesting development.


September 29, 2006
A public beta of BlueDragon 7.0 is now available. I'm really in two minds about this. Obviously, I'm pleased to see New Atlanta implementing features that ColdFusion MX 7 introduced (nearly two years ago!) but they still aren't tackling event gateways which are incredibly powerful (nor Flash / XML forms or reporting). On the other hand, they continue to extend the language in proprietary ways (for example their <cfdocument> tag implements PDF but then adds PNG and JPG while not supporting FlashPaper).

Some of their proprietary extensions are definitely interesting and useful (onMissingTemplate() for Application.cfc is probably what appeals most to me). However, they also seem to be driving their implementation of the language very much into "Java-Lite" territory with the addition of interfaces and abstract CFCs (and null support). A lot of Java and C++ developers don't seem to be able to figure out abstract classes properly so I really don't think that adding that sort of thing to ColdFusion is a step forward. I really think that the folks clamoring for "more OO" in ColdFusion are a very small minority (albeit very vocal!) and that such things don't address what the vast majority of ColdFusion developers really want from the product.

All that said, choices are good and the more ColdFusion engines out there, the more it validates the use of ColdFusion as a rapid application development system.


August 18, 2005
Seen via Fusion Authority, New Atlanta have made available a hot fix for all editions of BlueDragon 6.2. I'm currently running build 261 (the May Hot Fix). The August Hot Fix brings that up to 268 and contains a handful of minor bug fixes.


May 28, 2005
I spent several hours over the last couple of nights trying to get Tartan running on BlueDragon 6.2. I found several bugs in BlueDragon in the process.

The first stumbling block is that BlueDragon does not support WEB-INF.cftags.component as the universal base class for all components. It's mentioned several times in the CFMX documentation so this is at best a compatibility issue that New Atlanta should document and at worst a bug they should fix. Workaround: change WEB-INF.cftags.component to any.

The second stumbling block I hit was that the pseudo-constructor of a derived CFC could not access variables set in the pseudo-constructor of the base CFC. New Atlanta just released a Hot Fix that fixes this bug. You'll need it to get Tartan running.

Then I tripped over <cfbreak/>. BlueDragon thinks that's an illegal tag. Add a space and it's happy: <cfbreak />.

I found the same problem with <cfrethrow/>. Changing it to <cfrethrow /> made BlueDragon happy.

Finally, BlueDragon does not allow derived CFCs to call private methods in the base CFC via super. Since private methods are accessible to derived CFCs (because CFML's private really means protected), this should definitely be valid. Workaround: change ServiceFactory.getServiceArgs() to be access="public".

At this point my sample application (for my frameworks talk) runs on BlueDragon in all seven variants.

Oh, and this exercise did highlight a bug in my code! My Tartan configuration file did not have a <parameters> tag around my DAO factory parameters which caused them to be ignored. This meant that my queries were being run with username="" password="". On CFMX, blank credentials are ignored and the values in the data source (in the CF Admin) are used. On BlueDragon, the blank credentials are used (so the queries failed).


March 23, 2005
New Atlanta have released BlueDragon 6.2 for .NET and J2EE platforms, as well as their standalone JX and Free editions. Pricing for the .NET and J2EE editions remains at $2,499 per CPU. Pricing for the JX edition is $899 per server.

Online support can be purchased for $995, premium support (which adds telephone support, a faster response time and an additional named support contact) can be purchased for $4,995 per year with an option for 24/7 pager support at an extra $2,495 per year.


December 1, 2004
Barney Boisvert has had an ongoing love-hate relationship with BlueDragon, mostly because he's been trying to ensure that Fusebox 4.1 will run on it. It's a noble cause: it makes a lot of sense that a framework like Fusebox be portable across implementations of CFML.

Now he's moved on to a more CFC-intensive application and he's having problems with BlueDragon. I'm on the BlueDragon mailing list and there are definitely a lot of small inconsistencies between ColdFusion MX and BlueDragon. New Atlanta are very responsive, as you'd expect from a small company, and they issue fixes and patches swiftly to try to make their product compatible with ColdFusion MX. I have to admit that I'm very impressed with their commitment to compatibility - I think that should be a number one goal for any third-party implementor. New Atlanta have worked incredibly hard in this area and they should be applauded for that.

Clearly they have some way to go for CFMX 6.1 compatibility, even beyond their extremely detailed compatibility guide. Soon Blackstone will be available will a whole new host of features to make ColdFusion developers even more productive and even more successful - and New Atlanta will be playing catch up again.

When CFMX came out, New Atlanta's CF5-compatible (almost) version of BlueDragon came under the microscope - when asked if they would support CFCs, they initially said no... and then they said that it would depend on what their customers wanted. Given the amount of customer research that goes into each release of ColdFusion, it shouldn't be a surprise that customers demanded BlueDragon should be compatible with CFMX - New Atlanta worked very hard to achieve a level of compatibility with CFMX.

Blackstone will start that process all over again, putting BlueDragon a couple of years behind the curve again.

Don't get me wrong: competition is a very good thing but I have a background in international standards where compatibility is king. An alternative isn't 'free' if it isn't compatible...


July 15, 2004
New Atlanta has just announced the availability of a Technology Preview installer for BlueDragon.NET. In the same way that both BD and CFMX have a J2EE version that runs on top of the Java platform and provides tight integration with Java, BD.NET is a .NET assembly that runs on top of the native .NET platform on Windows, providing tight integration with .NET.


June 25, 2004
Perfectly timed to coincide with CFUN-04, New Atlanta have just released BlueDragon 6.1. Their "6.1" version number is intended to convey compatibility with ColdFusion MX 6.1 - as always, read the compatibility guide carefully to see where the two differ!
New Atlanta are keen to emphasize unique features in their product, such as source-less deployment and J2EE WAR file deployment (both of which have been discussed publicly by Ben Forta as part of the forthcoming "Blackstone" ColdFusion MX release) - and unique tags such as
cfimage
,
cfimap
etc. And of course their free production server. New Atlanta have a booth at CFUN where you can learn more about BlueDragon 6.1.
You can also learn more about "Blackstone" at CFUN because Ben Forta is giving the keynote on Sunday and will be previewing more cool stuff planned for the next release of ColdFusion MX.


March 19, 2004
New Atlanta have recently clarified some more details about their forthcoming BlueDragon for .NET edition. In the same way that the existing BlueDragon/J2EE edition is a 'native' J2EE application that runs on top of any J2EE application server (or, indeed, any Servlet container) and provides deep integration with the J2EE layer, the BlueDragon for .NET edition will be a native .NET application that runs on top of the .NET Framework and provides deep integration with .NET.
Technically speaking, BlueDragon for .NET will be a ".NET Framework assembly" (much like BlueDragon/J2EE is available as a J2EE WAR/EAR) and will therefore have full native access to everything .NET provides.
This will give New Atlanta four different editions of BlueDragon:
  • Server - standalone, free, for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux.
  • Server JX - standalone, $999, for Windows, Mac OS X, Solaris, Linux.
  • J2EE - from $2499 (1-CPU) for any J2EE application server.
  • .NET - from $2499 (1-CPU) for any .NET Framework server.
For more details, see New Atlanta's BlueDragon product information pages.


February 27, 2004
Update! New Atlanta have just released more details about their precompiled, encrypted templates. Whilst this is a feature that many users have been requesting, it seems a bit brutal to overwrite the source files with the precompiled results. I'll be interested to see how this feature is received by the CF community. The technology preview of Blackstone - at MXDU - talked briefly about secure, sourceless deployment so it seems that you can expect similar functionality from the official ColdFusion product shortly.


As promised by Vince recently, Beta 3 of BlueDragon is now available for download. Windows only right now, the Mac and Linux versions will be available shortly (they're sorting out an issue with the installer).
Vince says "With the beta3 release, BlueDragon 6.1 is now-feature complete. We'll concentrate on bug fixes and tidying-up over the next month, with a final release planned for March 31."
Two of the big new "features" with this beta are: precompiled, encrypted templates and the revamping of the free server edition. I have no more information about the former at the moment but the free server edition news is very interesting... Vince Bonfanti, New Atlanta CEO, says "We've decided to significantly enhance the features provided in the BlueDragon Server 6.1 FREE edition. The free edition now has almost all of the features of the premium edition BlueDragon Server JX." The advanced features the free edition will not support are: JSP / J2EE support (such as page context, J2EE sessions,
cfforward
,
cfservlet
and
cfinclude
of a servlet or JSP); support for databases other than ODBC, MySQL and PostgreSQL; ability to deploy encrypted, precompiled templates; web server adaptors for iPlanet and Sun ONE. That means that it will support CFCs, XML, Web Services, Java tags etc.
This is a very bold move by New Atlanta - they'd previously said that the free edition would remain only CF5-compatible and that to get access to the new 6.1 features, users would need to buy the JX edition (currently $549 but will rise to $999 when 6.1 ships) or the J2EE edition ($4,998 for 2 CPUs). For comparison, Macromedia offers a Developer Edition (free, full-featured but single IP), Standard Edition ($1,299) and Enterprise Edition ($5,999 for 2 CPUs).
As soon as the Mac OS X version of Beta 3 is available (next week, according to Vince), I'll take it for a test drive, try my various Mach II applications on it and give a report (so far, Beta 1 and Beta 2 have been unable to run Mach II applications).


February 22, 2004
The official release date for BlueDragon 6.1 is March 31st, according to Vince Bonfanti on the bluedragon-interest mailing list.
The third (and final) beta will be available on Friday February 27th.


January 12, 2004
New Atlanta just announced that BlueDragon 6.1 Beta 2 is now available. According to some of the discussions on various mailing lists, this version is supposed to be able to run Mach II applications so I'll be trying that out tomorrow!


November 20, 2003
Now that I have the JX Server beta installed, every time I write a test case to confirm some question a user has on a forum or mailing list, I also try it out on BDJX6.1. Most stuff works just fine (which is pretty impressive). I've tripped over a couple of things for which there are workarounds:
  • As I mentioned earlier, you can't
    cfinvoke
    a component method directly at the moment, but you can use
    createObject()
    or
    cfobject
    to create a CFC instance and then call methods on that (e.g.,
    obj.foo()
    ).
  • You can't
    createObject()
    a webservice, but you can
    cfinvoke
    it directly or use
    cfobject
    to create a webservice instance (and then call methods on that).
  • cfset var x = 1
    is treated the same as
    cfset variables.x = 1
    or
    cfset x = 1
    , i.e., as instance data rather than a local variable, but you can say
    cfset arguments.x = 1
    (and then refer to just
    x
    ) and you effectively get a local variable. Of course, that assumes you don't have an argument called
    x
    ! Interestingly enough, in CFMX6.1, the unadorned
    x
    does not resolve to
    arguments
    scope (it resolves to the unnamed /
    variables
    scope) so that's a bit of a subtle difference!
I still haven't resolved my problem with Axis failures trying to publish webservices but I'll take that up with New Atlanta.
Oh, one other issue to be aware of: if you use Safari 1.1 and try to download the beta from New Atlanta's site, you'll be repeatedly challenged to login. Apparently, this is due to a bug in Safari that doesn't respect cookie path hierarchies (when multiple cookies with the same name but different path lengths should be ordered by path) - the New Atlanta site uses cookies for login but relies on the path hierarchy to control access across multiple applications. You can workaround this by using Firebird (or some other browser) to download the bits.


November 18, 2003
I downloaded the three beta installers for Mac OS X (the free server edition, the JX server edition and the J2EE edition) and installed the JX server. The beta bits are packaged as ZIP files for the Mac and they expand to installers (apps) for Server and JX Server and to a directory structure for J2EE. The JX Server installer is pretty slick, asking for a port number and an administrator password and, if you accept the defaults for everything you'll end up with everything in
/Applications/BlueDragon_Server/
and there are simple startup / shutdown scripts in the
bin
directory.
I tried out some CFCs and mostly things worked pretty well although the beta does not support calling components directly via
cfinvoke
so you have to use
createObject()
and invoke methods against that (which I mostly do anyway).
super
seems to work just fine. There's no support for
var
scope local variables yet (according to Matt Liotta) but I'm sure that will get fixed.
createObject()
doesn't yet support web services - again, I expect that'll be fixed before release - and accessing a CFC directly or with
?wsdl
leads to an error right now.
Overall, it looks pretty good for an early beta. It isn't yet sufficiently compatible with CFMX 6.1 to be able to run Mach II applications so I can't really give it a full workout. One key point from the compatibility guide is that CFCs are not going to be supported in the free Server edition which makes a lot of sense - New Atlanta are in business to make money, after all, so you can't expect them to give everything away!
As the beta proceeds and greater compatibility with CFMX 6.1 is achieved, I'll be writing more about BlueDragon.


November 17, 2003
New Atlanta now have a beta version of BlueDragon 6.1 available that not only follows CFMX's version numbering but also adds some of the MX-specific features like CFCs, web services and XML processing. I think this is a good indication that the CF community really do like these features (New Atlanta previously said they wouldn't add CFC support because they didn't believe folks were really going to use them). It also further validates the enhancements Macromedia has made to ColdFusion!
The beta is only available for Windows and Linux so I can't try it out to provide more details.
Correction: it seems I visited the site before the beta bits were up - there was an early customer preview for Windows and Linux only but now there is a full range of beta bits for all platforms.


September 12, 2003
I got somewhat overtaken by work and then I was off sick for a couple of days so I didn't get around to blogging the rest of the sessions. Sorry. I'd got as far as Jeff Peters' "Fusedocs" session so next up was Charlie Arehart of New Atlanta touting the upcoming BlueDragon 3.1 release as an alternative platform for Fusebox 4. BlueDragon 3.1 will add the XML functions (already present in CFMX) that are necessary to support FB4.
After dinner, Michael Smith ran an interactive workshop on FLiP - the Fusebox Lifecycle Process. It was interesting to hear people talking about what didn't work for them in the real world and hearing suggestions for how to overcome these problems. That's always more productive than simply hearing why something is so great! I sat at the back and watched, mostly because I'm not very familiar with FLiP beyond what I've read in Nat & Jeff's book (about Fusebox 3, which includes a chapter on FLiP).
After that, it was the Fusepanel, which I was honored to be asked to join. The audience asked a lot of questions ranging from very Fusebox-related issues (which I deferred to Sandy Clark, Michael Smith and Steve Nelson) to more general design-related issues (where I found myself more in agreement with Steve than I would have expected!). There were also some specific Macromedia-related questions for me... I talked a little about how the product team had made a specific effort to optimize CFMX 6.1 for Fusebox applications (both existing Fusebox 3 applications and the then-nascent Fusebox 4 and Fusebox MX sample applications). I also encouraged the audience to submit articles about Fusebox to the Developer Center since Fusebox was currently unrepresented on macromedia.com.
I also acknowledged that we're using Mach II on some projects at Macromedia but couldn't say much about those yet... watch this space!




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